The Bold Type had “the talk” this week — the gun talk.
And while uncomfortable, it was necessary as part of a larger debate that many folks are having with their own close friends and family at this very moment.
Basically, Jane was disgusted when she found out Sutton owned a shotgun and better yet, that she kept it inside their NYC apartment.
“Do you have a MAGA hat,” she asked her sarcastically which was an unnecessary jab coming from someone who maybe isn’t as informed about guns as she should be. It’s easy to be scared of something when you don’t understand it or are always being told that it does more harm than good.
Sutton on the other hand was unapologetically proud of her shotgun who she named Betsy back in high school. She had a pretty decent argument for holding onto Betsy — she liked to shoot skeet.
On her first day back, Jane was thrust into the position of “proving” that she was worthy of getting her job back. And without batting an eyelash, she pitched the article title: “I love my best friend but hate her gun.”
The Bold Type always tries to find ways to incorporate hot button topics into their series by way of article. Was it a neat and tidy story that could be wrapped up in one episode? Definitely not. Could they have had this debate for episodes on end? Of course. But that would be counterproductive.
Both ladies made very valid arguments for opposing and supporting guns. I wasn’t satisfied with Sutton giving up her gun at the end, however, because it seemed like she enjoyed it for more reasons than just for control. Jane wanted to the outcome to be Sutton giving up the gun and when recounting all the massive school shootings didn’t work, she appealed to Sutton’s emotional side by telling her she only used the gun as a crutch to be controlling.
Jane is the last person that should be talking about control when the whole point of her article was to gain control of the situation and Sutton.
Sutton caved to Jane and the beliefs that owning a gun somehow made her a terrible person when in reality, there are various types of gun owners — good and bad. It wasn’t very authentic for a character who is the most put together and responsible on the show.
Sutton feeling control of her gun, in my opinion, was a good thing because it meant she knew what she was doing and following all the rules. Not once did anything ever get out of hand nor did it pose a threat to Jane.
I will also agree with the statement that guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Sure, it’s much easier with a gun, however, the gun laying in the apartment itself would not do anything. Jane made it seem like just by laying in a secure case, it would somehow affect her life and she’d move out if Sutton didn’t get rid of it. Girl, take a few breaths.
That illogical fear is formed from not being knowledgable about it.
Maybe part two of this convo should focus on mental health in America and guns getting into the hands of those who aren’t as careful around them as Sutton is.
I also like how they addressed stereotyping a gun owner. Sutton isn’t what you’d imagine a shotgun owner to look like, but she is one and there are plenty more folks that look just like her.
Jane’s been on a rather judgmental streak as of late, first with Kat on the topic of diversity in the workplace and now with Sutton when it comes to guns. Just because she has an opinion doesn’t make her right or better than anyone. It’s kind of getting annoying and it’s making her rather unlikeable.
At this point, even Ryan told her to maybe consider Sutton’s point of view.
And why is she reaching out to her ex hook-up instead of her boyfriend? Jane’s life has been so messy as of late, she really cannot speak about anyones decisions or try to use their situations as leverage to gain control. The promo teasing her possible pregnancy is just more proof that she really has no idea what she’s doing right now or who she even is.
By approaching Jaclyn and asking for her old desk back, she wanted to be in control again.
As for Adena and Kat, their open relationship of sorts could be problematic, or it could be what brings them towards closer to being endgame and allows them to build a strong foundation of trust.
I’ve read some comments about how the way their relationship is being handle feeds into a bi-sexual trope that LGBTQ characters aren’t faithful or need to experiment, and I don’t necessarily see it that way.
My thoughts may be invalidated because I am not part of that community nor do I know as much about their representation as I should, but I’m coming at it from the these are two people in a relationship who are facing a problem and dealing with it heads on.
The problem of experimenting and being curious isn’t necessarily exclusive to LGBTQ couples — this is a problem any couple could face.
I personally didn’t see Kat hooking up with another woman as cheating because she received permission from Adena to do it.
I also don’t think it’s one of those “hit a specific number and you’re gay enough to be with me” situations because she’s not necessarily trying to prove to herself that she likes women. She knows she does. And while she may be unsure if she’s gay or bi, the whole point isn’t to convince herself of her sexuality, it’s to embrace it.
Adena has been there and done that multiple times with multiple women. Kat is a newbie and like any newbie, she’s curious. Most of us were in our first relationship and sexual experience.
While some may be content with one woman for the rest of their lives, Kat isn’t one of those people. And Adena knows that.
She also knows that if she doesn’t allow her to explore, she’ll grow to resent her or worse, she will end up cheating out of lust and it will ruin this good thing that they have.
It’s kind of the like when you tell someone they can’t have something, it makes them want it even more.
Kat thought it was wrong, so she felt guilty and couldn’t stop the thoughts and sex dreams.
I think it’s all very human.
I don’t necessarily think that an open relationship would work for everyone and who knows, it might be a flop for them as well.
But if they are both in agreement about what is happening here, I don’t see an issue.
- Olivier is human and his relationship with the three ladies is quite enjoyable.
- Sutton’s encounter with “Brookie” was the worst thing ever. She was such a bitch to Sutton the whole time they were friends and then treated her like Sutton did her dirty. Girl, bye.
- Can someone please bring Alex back? I miss him. The office needs more masculinity.
- Also, Richard. Where is he? Where is his new girlfriend? When will get back with Sutton? While I love her independent street as the woman who can’t be tamed, I don’t want to see their relationship wither away for good.
- Knowing Sutton’s background as a rural girl in a shooting club makes me like her that much more. It shows that you can’t let where you come from stop you from pursuing your dreams!
The Bold Type – We’ll Always Have Paris (2×10)
Everything is better in Paris, even break-ups.
Kat might not feel that way, per say, but I can guarantee you, a break-up while you’re in Paris with your best friends and throwing a lavish and successful party for your company trumps a cold day in New York.
The Bold Type ended it’s season two run on a rather odd note.
Even though Sutton was the only one getting a happy ending and Jacqueline was virtually fired from Scarlet, everything had a rather peppy, “all’s well that ends well” tone.
Maybe it was just because of Sutton’s fairytale (and predictable) moment with Richard.
I’m not going to sit here and say that I didn’t “aww” and turn to mush when he offered to take the picture for her and Jane, revealing that he had left Jessica and followed his heart just as she was going to make the leap of faith, but seeing as that’s the unrealistic, predictable outcome, it did fall a little flat.
I was more moved by Sutton nailing her wardrobe styling session much to Oliver’s surprise proving that she was really good at her job and also, her breaking down and having a true heart-to-heart with the boss.
He may be demanding but Oliver is a good person deep down inside who wanted Sutton to follow her heart. It was a beautiful and unexpected moment. I think that’s the key here.
The Bold Type has spent most of season two addressing controversial topics that had the power to divide all the besties at one point. From gun ownership to owning your blackness to fertility treatments, it’s covered it all.
Am I really to believe that in this same world, a happy ending circa Cinderella just happens to exist? It was, dare I say, almost too cheesy.
As was Jane dropping everything to join her gal pals in Paris. If it was that easy, why didn’t she just think of it before they all departed?
It must be nice to just fly to Paris on a whim to get away from major life decisions that involve freezing your eggs and choosing which boy you prefer.
Jane’s been teeter-tottering between Pinstripe and Ben for a few episodes now.
I’ve always been into Pinstripe, but him bluntly saying that he didn’t care if Jane had a boyfriend and then kissing her, rubbed me the wrong way.
So often we don’t realize what we have till someone else has it but that doesn’t mean Ben, a really good guy, has to suffer because of it.
Ben has been by Jane’s side this whole time and surprisingly, wasn’t scared off by her bringing up having children at the beginning of their relationship.
Plus, he didn’t downright offer Jane money, he offered to get her into a program. Yes, they’d have to lie and say they lived together, but it came with fewer strings attached.
My fear, if I were Jane, would be that Pinstripe would somehow feel like any children I had in the future were his because he contributed.
Jane may have been the epitome of annoyance this whole season but I’m impressed with her decision to be her own Prince Charming.
There is definitely a problem with the world telling us that we as women cannot make fertility decisions for ourselves without the aide of a man because we cannot afford them.
And as far as topics that the series raises awareness on, insurance covering Viagra and vasectomies but not reproductive rights is one that needs to be underlined in red.
If insurance companies don’t deem women as valuable as men’s erections, how can we survive and thrive on our own?
That’s why, I loved that Jacqueline went ahead and published Jane’s piece.
Sure, Jane’s topic was personally motivated but it was important and related to many women.
If the ship is sinking, why not use this platform, a platform for women, to raise awareness that matters?
And shame on this whole board for being insulted that someone called them out on their bullshit.
They are aware that they are on a board for a feminist, groundbreaking, inspiring, women-leaning magazine?
Women need women that are supportive and will fight for them. Women need women like Jacqueline.
I hope that the board doesn’t replace her, but I fear for the sake of the story, come spring 2019, Jacqueline will no longer be sitting at the head of Scarlet.
And then, I fear what will happen to the thought-provoking magazine. Do men think they really have a better grasp on issues than she does?
If she can’t do it, who can?
And if the only measurement of success is how successful this Paris party was, well, I think Kat nailed it.
Despite going through her own personal drama, she figured out a way to make the Scarlet event something buzzy worthy by saying no phones allowed.
It goes back to the “you only want what you can’t have” mentality that I mentioned earlier.
Really the only way things are ever popular is if they are exclusive. Scarlet has to find a way to be attainable and exclusive at the same time.
Personally, I think Kat made a mistake by bringing Adena to Paris because it distracted her from the work.
Truthfully, all the girls brought their personal drama to a place that was supposed to be all about fashion week. Why not just let it go for a little bit? Why not enjoy the perks the job has to offer?
This, in itself, was proof that Kat’s just a little too clingy to Adena.
The worst part is that Kat wasn’t able to give Adena the space she needed to fuel her creativity.
Adena was more than accommodating when Kat needed to branch out and have experiences with women. Why couldn’t Kat?
Eventually, when Adena failed to show up for the party, it dawned on Kat that she needed to loosen her grip a little, but is that too late?
It also kind of seems like the writers are looking for any reason to create tension between Adena and Kat. Has there been a moment where these two just vibed without anything else messing it up?
Adena had so many chances to bring up how suffocated she felt in New York, but she never did. Maybe she was just in that honeymoon phase? But I fail to believe someone like Adena wouldn’t speak up about feeling trapped or unlike herself.
She’s too outspoken to be silenced and there have been other opportunities. Instead, she acted like getting her visa and coming to New York was the only thing she wanted. And then, only when Kat inquired about her art, did she actually confess to something more happening.
And realistically, Kat is probably working 9-5 so that gives her plenty of time to be working on her stuff. I just don’t think I understand the issue.
But maybe it’s about the old adage — if you love something, set it free, if it comes back it was meant to be.
I have no doubt in my mind that we’ll see Adena again because this didn’t feel like a permanent break-up. Though with all these issues arising every other day, I wonder if they are even in the right headspace to be in a relationship.
Do you think people will judge Sutton for dating a board member? People were surprisingly cool with an assistant dating a superior? Will she get a promotion in the fashion department? She was the one that needed to catch a break.
Will Kat and Adena figure things out? Will Jacqueline get replaced? Which guy did Jane decide was the one she wanted to share all her important moments with?
Are you hoping for less cliche moments next season?
I look forward to catching up with you Bold Typers in the spring!
The Bold Type – Trippin’ (2×09)
Apparently, a classic Babs Brady involves turning her whole life around and sticking to it.
The Bold Type found Sutton rushing home to find her birth certificate in order to get an exported passport so she could attend fashion week in Paris. Why it isn’t mandatory for her to have a current passport is beyond me.
But the series needed some reason to introduce this storyline so let’s just go with it. Sutton grabs the girls for a road trip during which she repeatedly warns them about what a drunk her mother is. And it’s fair because Sutton had to grow up in this situation, was forced to raise herself, and slept in the back of Billy’s truck to avoid dealing with the mess that came from said benders.
Sutton has every right to be upset and hurt and not in the mood for patching things up.
Except as it turns out, people can change. Sure, her ex Billy is still living in that small-town mindset and he’s still a flirt, but he’s also married. And Babs isn’t a drunk anymore, she’s turned things around for herself.
Sutton claims she’s been down this road before with Babs getting sober just long enough for her to find another destructive obsession. And again, Sutton’s feelings are valid.
The only person that can’t seem to accept that is Jane who continues to push Sutton into forgiving her mother and finally drops the “at least you have a mother” card. I really hoped she wouldn’t go there, especially because avoiding-real-life-problems Jane who drank a little too much and smoked Kats parents’ weed stash was kind of bearable.
But, alas, she went there and while it may have been disguised as good intentions from a caring friend, it was problematic on many levels.
I’m sorry that you lost your mother Jane, but that doesn’t mean everyone else should suddenly love theirs. Especially if their mothers never acted like mothers and made their childhood a living hell.
Just because someone carries the title, doesn’t mean they deserve it nor do they deserve love and forgiveness and fourth or fifth chances.
That kind of thinking is so juvenile and entitled. Jane really thought that there was a reality where that was okay.
Now, is it good that Sutton opened up to the idea? Yes, of course! If she wanted to reconcile with her mother, then absolutely. But it should have been done on her own terms and not out of guilt that someone’s mom died before they got to know them. Now, I know I sound like a completely heartless person, but I’m just so sick of Jane thinking she’s better than everyone this season. Jeez.
She was dealing with accepting the news of how the BRCA gene would affect her fertility in the future.
During the previous episode when she told Ben about it, he was a little insensitive but show me a guy who wouldn’t be when his girlfriend of a few months was talking about future children.
And I get that Jane didn’t necessarily want to deal with such major decisions at the moment, but giving her pamphlets was his way of trying to inform her and allow her to make an educated decision. How is that grounds for drowning your sorrows in liquor with your ex?
Ben deserves better. He was thinking of her health and her future!
In the end, she figured out that sometimes, there are just things that you have to face; things that cannot be delayed no matter how much you try to.
But at that point, I felt like she wasn’t mentally ready for a guy who cared for her in a real way.
And maybe that’s just the show trying to shove her back together with Pinstripe again. I’m convinced he just rides the elevator up and down until he runs into Jane.
He claims he got a book deal and used that success story to convince Jane that he cares about her in a more serious way as well. Personally, I think Jane’s just been giving him false hope. Who will she choose? Why sabotage Dr. McDreamy for Pinstripe?
Does she think life will be easier with him around?
Then there is Kat who can’t make her mind up about this whole dating thing. At first, I was open to the open relationship decision because I felt like her relationship with Adena would benefit from it.
But now, it seems like Kat’s just hooking up with anyone that has a vagina and expresses the slightest interest in her. Is she even attracted to these people? Is there anything more here that’s stimulating her emotional discovery?
Half-way through a random hook-up with a small town bartender, she realized she wanted to be exclusive with Adena because Adena called her about a problem at Scarlet that we all knew was going to be a problem from the beginning.
By the way, there is no way in hell I’m going to believe that someone as accomplished and influential as Jacqueline couldn’t foresee the negative side-effect of turning off Scarlet’s comments and disconnecting the voices of Scarlet from the brand. I mean, isn’t that the whole point? To open up a stream of communication and encourage them to engage with the content that focuses on social and topical issues?
She needs to reread the magazine’s mission statement. Also, is it odd that the board is thinking of removing her right around the same time Anna Wintour’s rumored retirement from Vogue surfaces? I may be stirring the pot a bit here.
Truthfully, I blame that new female board member who has had it out for Jacqueline since their first meeting.
Anyway, back to Kat’s complicated love life. She realizes she loves Adena over the stupidest reason and then eagerly tells her she’s done exploring other women.
Yet, when Adena tells her she’s going to be working instead of grabbing brunch with her, it looks like Kat is regretting her decision.
It seems to me like maybe this whole thing was more about getting attention than getting to know herself, her wants and her needs.
Do you think this is something Adena and Kat will be able to overcome? Is Sutton’s mom going to follow through on her promise? Is Richard really getting this serious with that new girl he’s dating? How do guys move on so quickly from the alleged “love of their lives?” Methinks they will have a romantic reunion in Paris!
Are you hoping that Jane gets a cab and never returns? Same.
The Bold Type – Plan B (2×08)
The Bold Type is not tiptoeing around all the sensitive topics, so I’m not going to tiptoe around my frustration with Jane.
These Jane-heavy episodes are becoming very hard to digest, and I’m going to say it’s because of the hypocritical nature that she displayed in previous episodes, mostly “Betsy.”
While the show’s “storyline of the day” recipe would have us forgetting all that transpired between Jane and Sutton when it came to the gun-debate, I can’t simply put it off and accept that Sutton is no longer a gun lover because her best friend thought they were dangerous.
It’s almost sloppy writing for the writers if they think you can just wrap up something so serious as disparate views on gun control in one episode. That’s why despite my anger at all things Jane, I have to give them props for looping back around to the BRCA1 gene mutation that was a major issue back in Season 1.
The fact that she might have breast cancer in the future like her mother doesn’t just go away after one episode. It’s a situation needs to be addressed from many angles, including preventative measures.
Unfortunately, this was brought up when Jane was already dealing with the side affects of having to take Plan B because the condom broke while she was getting intimate with Dr. Ben. When it rains, it pours.
I found Jane’s desire to craft a story around “babies being the bling” a little too far-fetched because what she needed to address was the decision on whether or not she has kids.
As a young, millennial woman, she has the expertise and experience to write an article that will appeal to wide-audience more than whatever she could pick up from that mommy and me park in New York.
It pains me to say but young, twenty-five year old women are constantly bombarded by the “when are you having babies” questions either from nagging relatives or doctors who think they are getting too old and missing their prime or for health reasons that would make them unable to have children in the future.
So many women are also wondering if they want to have kids, should have kids, are ready for kids, etc. that Jane exploring that angle for herself and others would have been much more effective. I guess that’s why they have Jacqueline to guide them in the right direction when it comes to stories that miss the mark.
Jane has a sizable decision to make and it’s not an answer she’s going to find in the fashion closet or with Dr. Ben, who unfortunately, doesn’t seem like Mr. Right anymore. Any man that runs when things become a bit “too serious,” regardless of how long they’ve been in the relationship, isn’t ready for commitment.
Yes, springing kids on a guy you just started dating is a tall-order. It would freak out even the most prepared of dudes. But his reaction was telling in terms of how serious he sees this relationship. She wasn’t asking to have kids on the spot, nor was she asking for a decision or that awkward medical advice he gave her. It just goes to show you that even an intelligent doctor who delivers babies for a living isn’t ready for his life to be uprooted.
I’ve been wondering WHY Pinstripe has been around and sprinkled throughout episodes this whole season — even as far as guessing that Jane was on the morning after pill — but I guess this is the show’s way of keeping him in Jane’s life and proving that he’s actually her soulmate.
If I had to guess, I would say Dr. Ben is on his way out, and Ryan is going to be the man who comes in and helps Jane figure her whole future out. He’s always done that from the very beginning. From orgasms to figuring out a new job to giving her random advice.
Also, why is he always hanging around Scarlet when he doesn’t work there? Wasn’t it a bit too convenient that the minute Kat agreed to become an influencer for a company, he was there with the dirt that the company’s CEO is an anti-LGBT racist.
Kat accepting that endorsement to begin with was all types of shady. First off, it seemed like Cleo went behind Jacqueline’s back to approach Kat and sell this idea to her. She knew that Jacqueline would oppose it, for obvious reasons, but she wanted to go above her head.
I don’t really believe that she didn’t know about their controversial stance before presenting it to Kat. She seems like the type of person who would ignore those facts if it meant money for the company/brand.
And it’s upsetting that Kat ignored her gut feelings and signed the contract without looking it over because that’s a huge no-no. I would think Kat would be aware of that or at least loop in Jacqueline and Richard, Scarlett’s legal aide.
This whole issue could have been avoided had there been open communication, which wasn’t an issue that was brought up necessarily but it is a thing I’ve noticed plagues companies all too often.
The plus of Kat’s storyline is that it gave us a little break from her Adena relationship woes. As much as I want those two to resolve their problems, the fact is that love lives aren’t always at the forefront of our lives. Sometimes, work gets in the way.
Sutton continues to be the heroine of the series, and I’m fine with it. Sure, it would be completely impossible for her to replicate the whole bar with only $218 bucks to spare, however, I’m not about to be nit picky. Otherwise, I would definitely call them out for living such lavish lives while making absolutely no money working for a media conglomerate in New York.
I was actually concerned that Sutton would get in trouble for duplicating the space without permission.
But really, none of that matters because at the end of the day, she proved to Oliver that she’s able to handle any situation that comes her way and scored herself a ticket to Paris for Fashion Week.
I’m not sure who is more excited about this — me or Sutton. No one, I mean no one, deserves it more than she does! And it’s proof that those who put in the work reap the rewards.
- Jacqueline’s relationship with each of the girls is so nurturing. She doesn’t coddle them, but she knows when she needs to push and when it’s necessary to pull back. I wish I had a boss that was as understanding and motivational.
- Sutton bringing up her mother means that we will be meeting her very, very soon.
- Jane has a brother? I don’t know why that threw me for a loop.
- Alex makes due with the little amount of screen time he gets. And asking him to go to the Fashion closet to talk about Jane’s gyno appointment was a wonderful use of that limited time.
- Anyone else think Sutton and Alex are bound to hook-up? It seems like they really aren’t going down the Richard route right now. Well, that is until he’s single again.
- I’m all for friendships, however, the whole “we come as a package” situation when Jane was with Ben was a bit extreme. Some things are just mean to stay between you and your sig fig. Or you know, you can tell your girls about it later when the dude isn’t there!
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