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5 Biggest Moments on YOU Season 3: Who Died, Who Survived, and What’s Next?

YOU (L to R) VICTORIA PEDRETTI as LOVE QUINN and PENN BADGLEY as JOE GOLDBERG in episode 302 of YOU Cr. JOHN P. FLEENOR/NETFLIX © 2021

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The wait for YOU Season 3 is finally over!

On October 15, Netflix dropped the next installment of Joe Goldberg’s adventures. 

Only this time, he was joined by his partner-in-crime, Love, and their new bundle of joy, baby Henry. 

The murderous couple moved to Madre Linda for a fresh start, but despite Joe’s insistence that “everything would be different” this time around, they fell into old patterns fairly quickly and left a trail of bodies behind that would eventually lead to the demise of their fictitious happily ever after. 

You can read the spoiler-free review here! 

1. RIP to Those Who Didn’t Make It

Murder is the name of the game when it comes to Joe and Love. Their list of suspects this season included Natalia, who was the catalyst for all the disturbances in the town defined by tacky athleisure. But, let’s be honest, if it wasn’t her, it would’ve been someone else. Joe has a delusional obsession with finding “the one.”

While watching the season, there was no shortage of potential victims. Anytime the residents of Madre Lina were in a strange setting with Love or Joe, you found yourself wondering: “when are they going to die?”

Surprisingly, most of the victims belonged to Love, whose impulsiveness did no one any favors. After killing Natalie, she bludgeoned anti-vaxxer Gil and locked him up in the glass cage that they rebuilt in the bakery’s basement (also Natalie’s final resting place). While Gil technically killed himself after learning that his wife paid to get their delinquent son into university (looking at you, Lori Loughlin), Love and Joe used it as an opportunity to frame the poor guy for Natalie’s murder and made it seem like the result of a torrid love affair. Wow, they’re good at this. I shouldn’t be this surprised, right?

Joe’s only victim was Ryan Goodwin, Marienne’s narcissistic and druggie ex… but he kind of deserved it.

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YOU (L to R) MICHAELA MCMANUS as NATALIE ENGLER in episode 301 of YOU Cr. JOHN P. FLEENOR/NETFLIX © 2021

2. Those Who (Surprisingly!) Survived

To survive a brush with Love and Joe at their worst is, well, an incredible feat. Not many can live to tell that story, but influencer Sherry, her buff husband, Cary, and Theo, an impressionable college student with a terrible relationship with his father, Matthew, also Natalie’s husband, all did. 

Sherry and Cary suggested that Love and Joe try to “hack their love life” by sleeping with them. Unfortunately, Love’s jealousy issues took over, and when she accidentally blurted out that she killed Natalie for Joe, Sherry and Cary didn’t stand a chance. It was touch-and-go-there for a bit as Cary accidentally shot and grazed Sherry’s ear, while she intentionally shot him in the leg. Eventually, she found a key and managed to get them out of the cage alive and well. And in true Sherry fashion, she and Cary ended up turning their story into a best-selling book. 

Theo was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. He found Sherry and Cary in the cage just as Love arrived at the bakery. He tried to convince her that he didn’t believe what they said about her, but she knocked him out and pushed him down the stairs. However, when Joe went to clean up her mess, he realized that Theo was still alive. Since he promised not to say a word, Joe drove him to a hospital and let the poor kid live. His only sin was falling in love with the wrong woman! 

Marienne also survived, but it was also touch-and-go for her. Love had it out for her, and the only reason she made it out of the Quinn-Goldberg household in one piece was because of her sweet daughter. Fly free, Marienne! 

YOU (L to R) SHALITA GRANT as SHERRY CONRAD and TRAVIS VAN WINKLE as CARY CONRAD in episode 308 of YOU Cr. JOHN P. FLEENOR/NETFLIX © 2021

3. Joe and Love’s lovers

Joe and Love may have been on the same team, but they were simply trying to make a failed marriage work. Love’s insecurities got the best of her, and when she found out about Joe’s brief rendezvous with Natalie, she felt “wanted” by college kid Theo. She loved that he saw her and craved that attention, which she wasn’t getting from Joe. It was a disturbing relationship, and one she tried to put an end to many times, before convincing Joe that she needed to seduce Theo in order to find out what evidence Matthew had against them. 

Meanwhile, Joe developed an obsession with Marienne, a whip-smart library manager who gave him a job and slowly began to fall for him. He saw a light in Marienne, who, as a Black woman, was failed by the system multiple times, and wanted to get custody of her daughter from her abusive ex and local news anchor, Ryan Goodwin. While Marienne’s feelings towards Joe were reciprocated, they were a byproduct of his manipulative charm. Joe knows how to prey on a vulnerable woman to get what he wants. 

Thankfully, as mentioned above, both of Theo and Marienne survived, which is a new one for romantic partners in the series. Though, the season did end with Joe going to the depths of the Earth to find Marienne, so maybe she isn’t in the clear after all! 

YOU Season 3 Review - More Murders... But With a Conscience

YOU (L to R) PENN BADGLEY as JOE GOLDBERG and TATI GABRIELLE as MARIENNE in episode 301 of YOU Cr. JOHN P. FLEENOR/NETFLIX © 2021

4. Survival of the Fittest

One could argue that Joe and Love were each other’s victims. Their relationship was toxic for the get-go, and no amount of marriage counseling was going to fix it. If Love hadn’t announced her pregnancy at the end of season 2, Joe would’ve killed her on the spot. They were both alive because of Henry, and thus, thought that staying together for the child was going to somehow make all of their problems disappear. 

But it didn’t. Their resentment for each other grew as they lied and manipulated each other. They never trusted each other, and the relationship was solely codependency. I do think Love wanted to make a marriage with Joe work, but Joe, despite being a murderer himself, couldn’t see Love as anything more than a monster.

Thus, he looked for any out that he could find. When he set his sights on Marienne, he envisioned a brand new family with her and attempted to “protect her” from Love. In doing so, he was also protected himself. It definitely seemed as though Love’s murder attempt blindsided him. She admitted that she killed her first husband, James, with the same aconite used to poison Joe. 

However, Joe was always one step ahead of her because he took an adrenaline pill right before, which counteracted the poison. And he should breathe a sigh of relief because if he hadn’t, Love would’ve killed him with a butcher’s knife. 

Their relationship was survival of the fittest — be or be killed. And when she approached him, he stabbed her with a syringe full of the poison he made previously as he anticipated this very moment. 

After the poison stopped her heart, Joe cut off two of his toes (the worst part of the season, I’ll admit) and wrote a letter detailing Love’s murder-suicide. No one ever “found” Joe’s body, but since they found the toes, they assumed he died in the fire set by Quinn prior to killing herself. He made her out to be the true villain and escaped from Madre Linda unharmed… well, minus two toes. 

YOU (L to R) VICTORIA PEDRETTI as LOVE QUINN in episode 310 of YOU Cr. JOHN P. FLEENOR/NETFLIX © 2021

5. Goodbye, for now, Henry

What about baby Henry? Well, he no longer has to pay for the crimes of his parents. While the fact that Joe killed Love and framed her for a murder-suicide was messed up, out of the two of them, he was clearly the more stable one. Throughout the season, Joe prioritized being a good father because he didn’t want baby Henry to end up like him. Everything he did, in a twisted way, was to secure the child’s future. 

He knew that Love would never change and needed to be stopped because she would take them both down, which would ensure that Henry would end up in the system. Since he was placed in the system after his mother abandoned him, it was Joe’s biggest fear, and a future he did not want for his son. Therefore, his choice to give up Henry to Dante and Lansing, a good couple who were trying to adopt, was the most selfless thing he’s ever done. 

Sure, it was also a bit selfish because he wanted to pursue Marienne, but still, he made the best choice for baby Henry and ensured that he would have the possibility of a good future. At the end of the day, that’s all that matters. 

YOU (L to R) PENN BADGLEY as JOE GOLDBERG in episode 307 of YOU Cr. JOHN P. FLEENOR/NETFLIX © 2021

In the End… 

After putting an end to Love — “she must be stopped” — and giving away baby Henry to Dante and Lansing, Joe threw on his invisibility cap, said adios Madre Linda, and bonjour Paris. 

Will he say “hello you” to Marienne once again? And even if he does, how will he explain all that went down? He’s good at talking his way out of things, but they also found his toes at the scene of the crime. Marienne may think she attracts toxic men, but she’s levelheaded; she knew when to get out, so she’d never fall for  or believe anything he said. 

With a fourth season of YOU secured at Netflix already, we know that Joe will keep on keepin’ on and feeding into his delusions. Until his thirst is satiated, he’ll scour the world for Marienne. Or maybe he’ll give up and find a new obsession. 

Unfortunately, the world will never be safe if Joe is around. 

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Lizzy Buczak is the founder of CraveYouTV. What started off as a silly blog in her sophomore year at Columbia College Chicago turned her passion for watching TV into an opportunity! She has been in charge of CraveYou since 2011, writing reviews and news content for a wide variety of shows. Lizzy is a Music Business and Journalism major who has written for RADIO.COM, TV Fanatic, Time Out Chicago, Innerview, Pop’stache and Family Time.

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Who Is Rhys Montrose on ‘YOU’ Season 4?

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YOU Season 4 introduced a plethora of new characters as it revamped the series with a murder mystery format. 

*Warning – stop reading if you haven’t finished YOU Season 4 – Spoilers Ahead *

The shakeup made sense considering Joe Goldberg (Penn Badgley) uprooted his life following the fiery events in Madre Linda that killed Love Quinn and started over in London, assuming the identity of Professor Jonathan Moore. 

Rather quickly, he got pulled into an elite group thanks to his co-worker and neighbor, Malcolm Harding (Stephen Hagan), who was the season’s first victim. Joe/Jonathan naturally despised Malcolm’s group, though he did find Rhys Montrose (Ed Speleers), an author running for Mayor of London, to be a bit of a kindred spirit. They came from the same broken background and shared many of the same views.  

As the first half of the season unraveled, Joe sought out advice from Rhys on a handful of occasions, engaging in plenty of long heart-to-hearts with him, so it was kind of shocking when it was revealed that Rhys, as audiences have come to know him, was never real.

Rhys Montrose existed, yes, but he was never friends with Joe, nor was he the Eat the Rich Killer. The version of Rhys that Joe bonded with was a hallucination conjured up by his subconscious to protect himself and eliminate his darker, more deranged thoughts. 

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You. (L-R) Ed Speleers as Rhys, Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg in episode 410 of You. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix © 2023

For much of the season, we saw Joe desperately trying to set himself free from Rhys’ grasp. At first, he saw him as public enemy #1, who somehow figured out Joe’s real identity and roped him into a murder spree by threatening to frame him for the deaths if Joe refused to participate. 

However, once Joe realized that Rhys was a figment of his imagination, he began to look for ways to silence the evil little voice forever, while also trying to figure out a plan to cover up the death of the real Rhys Montrose. 

Joe was tasked with killing the mayoral candidate, who he assumed at the time was the Eat the Rich Killer, by Kate’s (Charlotte Ritchie) father, Tom Lockwood. When he arrived at Rhys’ secret countryside hideout and tied him up, he was infuriated that Rhys claimed not to know who he was, nor would he admit to kidnapping Marienne (Tati Gabrielle). Eventually, Joe’s rage and anger took over, and he “accidentally” killed Rhys, which is when fake Rhys showed up and revealed that Joe was having a semi-psychotic break. 

In the end, Joe’s suicide attempt ensured that his hallucinations were forever gone, though he did embrace the darkness he was trying so hard to snuff out, making him more dangerous than ever.

As for the real Rhys Montrose’s killer, he pinned it all on poor Nadia (Amy-Leigh Hickman), a fan of Rhys’s from the beginning, who flew too close to the sun in her attempts to bring down Joe Goldberg. If only she just listened to Marienne’s advice.

A huge congrats to the YOU team for pulling off yet another jaw-dropping twist, and to both Badgley and Speleers for completely immersing themselves in their dual characters. 

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YOU Review – Best of Friends (406)

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Just when you thought you figured out where the season was headed, YOU pulls out the rug from under you yet again.  

I’m definitely starting to feel the whiplash that Joe/Jonathan must be feeling right about now. 

Things have gone from crazy to crazier rather quickly, as Rhys unveiled his true plan—along with how Joe is involved—while Joe came out victorious in front of the elite group once again, and all while a new suspect started piecing things together and realizing that Joe knows way more than he’s led on. 

While Joe spent numerous hours trying to figure out a plan to get close to Rhys, Rhys just appeared at Joe’s place one night without so much as lifting a finger. Joe may think he’s the invisible one in the city, but for a man who’s so well-known and loved, Rhys seems to get around without anyone noticing. 

And he made the rules of the game very clear—either Joe finds someone to frame for all the deaths or he goes down as the Eat-the-Rich killer, which isn’t exactly ideal. A little incentive goes a long way, so while Joe tried to distance himself initially, he couldn’t shake the desire for self-preservation and took the bait. He took the task rather seriously as it was either kill or be killed; he knew someone had to go down for it, but it had to be the right person.

With time running out, he genuinely began to consider Connie, but despite being an irrelevant character, he couldn’t justify pinning it on someone who was struggling with addiction and trying to turn their life around.  Connie wasn’t a threat to anyone, except for maybe himself, so Joe couldn’t justify destroying his life. 

But Dawn, well, she fell right into his lap. The few times we saw her snapping photos of the elite, and focusing on Joe–including when she spotted him at Rhys’ mayoral rally—I was convinced that she recognized him from his previous life. And that seems to be what the series wanted me to think so that they could pull a fast one on us because when Dawn pulled Phoebe aside to a “safe room” to keep her protected from the killer, it was revealed that Dawn was just an obsessive stalker who was connived that she was friends with the elite, Phoebe in particular. Dawn was a threat to a lot of people, so Joe took advantage of it. He framed her by planting Simon’s ear in her belongings, and since no one would ever believe a word she said over Phoebe’s accounts of what happened, Dawn couldn’t prove her innocence. Plus, she made an ideal suspect since she was at nearly every single event where a murder occurred as she was stalking the group. I mean, it couldn’t have been any more perfect if Joe had tried to plan it himself. 

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You. Ed Speleers as Rhys in episode 406 of You. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix © 2023

However, his heroics did raise some questions from Nadia, his student and the lover of all murder mysteries. She noticed that Jonathan seemed to be at the center of every single scenario, oftentimes being championed as a hero, though he’s not actually connected to any of these people in any meaningful way. It’s a dangerous thing to play detective, especially when you’re setting your sights on Joe Goldberg.  Jonathan seems to like Nadia, but if she threatened him, I don’t think Joe would hesitate to take her down. Self-preservation is his M.O., remember?

Once Joe thought he finally got Rhys off of his back by framing Dawn, he decided to give into his desires and pursue a relationship with Kate. Honestly, Kate makes some really poor decisions, starting with just accepting Jonathan for who he is now and promising never to ask questions about his past. She wants someone to see her for who she is in the moment so badly that she’s letting logic take a backseat. Why would someone want to deny their past so badly unless they did something truly unforgivable? Kate wants to shed her past because of her connection to her father and she thinks that makes her and Jonathan equal, but they are not the same. 

By the time she realizes the truth about who Joe is, it might be too late.

As for Rhys, did Joe think he was really going to get rid of him that easily? Rhys has always wanted a friend to help him get to the finish line so to speak. He believes that they are the same, so he wasn’t going to just let Joe slip away.

And while his motive wasn’t evident at first, he seems hellbent on taking out those who don’t deserve their success and wealth. The three victims, Malcolm, Simon, and Gemma, all threatened his mayoral run in some way, so they were taken care of, and now, he’s setting his sights on the ultimate villain–Kate’s father. She may have a complicated relationship with her tycoon dad, but I don’t think Kate would ever want to see anything bad happen to him, let alone at the hands of the man she’s in love with. 

However, Rhys doesn’t seem to give Joe much of a choice as he still holds all of the cards. One might think that Joe could just handle this in the same way he always does, but well, you can’t just try to kill a killer. He’d see that coming from miles away. Joe needs to be strategic and deliberate in his plan, so for now, he has to play along. I, for one, am curious to see what all the hubbub is about Kate’s father–is he really as terrible as she makes him out to be?

As for Rhys, what is the catch? Fans were disappointed with the first half of the season since his reveal as the killer was obvious—and his motives, including his desire to kill Kate’s father–are exactly shocking or game-changing. What are we missing?

What did you think of the episode?

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What Time Does Netflix Release New Shows?

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Netflix has become one of the most popular ways to consume new movies and TV shows. 

The streaming giant has not only dominated the TV and movie landscape but it’s changed the way content is released.

While primetime TV still adheres to a weekly episodic release schedule, Netflix—and many of the streamers that followed—adopted the idea of dumping a full season on fans, creating a binge-watch model. 

Most Netflix Originals are released in bulk, with the full episode order arriving at one time. A handful of shows, most recently Firefly Lane and YOU, has been split up into two parts—with the first half arriving a few months prior to the second half of the season, which definitely helps build up some anticipation and makes for more digestible viewing. 

Of course, as you anticipate new seasons and episodes of your favorite shows, you naturally want to know what time they are going to premiere.

The good news is that Netflix’s release times are pretty standard for original TV shows and movies. 

All titles are typically released globally at 12:00 a.m. Pacific Time, which is 2:00 a.m. Central Time and 3:00 a.m. Eastern Time. 

Netflix noted that some titles are considered an original in one country but not in another, and in that case, if they are premiering in a country where it is a licensed title, it will premiere at 12:00 a.m. local time. 

“Availability times vary for episodes that are released weekly or that follow their original broadcast airing,” the streamer also clarified. 

However, when it comes to those big-name shows like Outer Banks or Stranger Things, it’s safe to say that all episodes will be loaded in late in the evening, so you can either stay up and binge-watch or take the day off and squeeze them in bright and early!

Happy watching!

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