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La Brea Review – [SPOILER] Returns (210)

LA BREA -- "The Return" Episode 210 -- Pictured: (l-r) Natalie Zea as Eve -- (Photo by: Sarah Enticknap/NBC)

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La Brea Season 2 Episode 10 brings back a major player into the fold—with a twist, of course. 

The episode, aptly titled “The Return,” kicks off with an unidentified person making his way through a portal, and while the show tried to keep the identity under wraps as best as possible, the return isn’t that much of a surprise if you’ve been paying attention—the boots were a dead giveaway. 

Levi, played by Nicholas Gonzalez, is a fan-favorite character, so honestly, it was almost a given that he’d find his way back to 10K B.C. at some point despite choosing to stay behind and make a life for himself in 1988. And that’s fine because everything else surrounding his return is an absolute game-changer. 

When Gavin crosses paths with Levi, he’s shocked to see that his former best friend doesn’t exactly look the same as when they left him in 1988—his hair is grayer and he’s aged a bit. And that’s when Levi drops the bombshell that while it has been a few days for Eve, Gavin, and the rest of the people trapped in 10K B.C., it’s been over a decade for Levi who came from 1998. 

I had to take a moment to process that. 

Levi remains rather cryptic about what brought him back to this time period, simply explaining that during his time away, he joined the DOD and hasn’t stopped trying to find a way to bring everyone home. He knows more than he’s letting on, but when Gavin presses, he simply says that he’s trying to finish what he and his wife started in an attempt to honor her memory, which includes bringing his friends, and the people he considers family, back home. 

Yeah, I said wife! It’s just bombshell after bombshell. And these new developments are total game-changers that I did not see coming. There’s not much I can predict when it comes to La Brea, but this may have been the twistiest twist of all. Since ten years have passed since he last saw them, Levi assures Gavin that he didn’t come back for Eve—that relationship, for him at least, is way in the past. But while Levi had time to come to terms with their split, grieve the loss, and move on and start anew, Eve hasn’t had that luxury; it’s all still fresh for her. She may have chosen her family, but feelings don’t just fizzle out like that, so this is going to put their now-platonic relationship in a really interesting place. It’s almost as though one person moved on while the other is holding on. Will feelings bubble up? Will she feel betrayed that he moved on? Will they work better as friends fighting toward a common goal?

Things only get more complicated when Levi visits Eve, who is still battling a concussion from her fall in the cave, and informs her that he lied to Gavin about the real reason he came back—Levi’s mission is to kill James! And he needs Eve’s help. 

This puts Eve in yet another very tricky spot because Levi is a man that’s asking her to choose him over his husband.. again. But he’s not doing so selfishly—he’s doing it because he has to know that it’s the key to solving this mess and saving thousands of people. Levi’s decade spent working with the DOD and gathering intel and information means that he’s probably the most informed person in 10K B.C. And from the looks of it, he may even be an expert on James as he seems pretty sure that eliminating him is the key to all of their problems. 

Eve is also a good person who wants to do the right thing, so her gut will likely tell her to trust Levi, but lying and keeping secrets won’t bode well for her relationship–whatever it may be now–with Gavin. Gavin isn’t overly trusting of James, but James claims to have what he wants—the key to Eve’s survival. Gavin will do anything to keep his wife alive, so if trusting James is that thing, he won’t let anyone stand in his way. As for Eve, killing James potentially means signing her death sentence. 

Therefore, Levi’s question is a loaded ask—and one that Eve has to consider very carefully. 

I do hope that by putting a target on James’ back, we finally get to know more about the man that we’re dealing with. Who is he? I feel like he has to be someone we already know and met. Maybe it’s someone from the Clearing? Or possibly, someone that Levi rubbed elbows with back in 1998? I know James is technically from the future, but Levi seemed to give off the vibe that he knew James on a closer, more personal level. How do you think James fits in? He has to be more than just Gavin’s dad. 

While I know Eve and Gavin’s kids, especially Izzy, don’t really feel the love for Levi these days, I have a feeling that Izzy is going to be the one that lends a hand as she doesn’t seem too keen on trusting James either. It’s strange considering she’s the one who let it slip about Gavin’s vision in front of her grandfather in the first place, but she’s also giving off the vibe that she’d do anything to distance the family away from this man, so I think she might be Levi’s unsuspecting ally. 

Hopefully, Levi will shed a lot more insight into the situation at hand now that he’s back because again, he has to have a considerable amount of insight into what’s going on having a decade of research under his belt. 

I love that this return allows Levi to stand on his own as a character rather than just the man who was Eve’s love interest. He’s an integral part of figuring out this vast mystery now.  

The hatred for James seems to run deep, even within his own glass tower. Kira, James’ right-hand woman, left Ty a cryptic note on his legal pad, urging him not to trust James and to find out about Project Blue Moon. At first, I was skeptical and thought maybe it was a test as Kira always seemed so dedicated and loyal to James, however, after her and Ty’s chat outside of the building, it seems that her concerns are genuine, especially after they pieced together that Blue Moon was Gavin/Isaiah’s childhood book. 

James has seemingly hinted at wanting another chance at being a father to Isaiah, so it’s possible that he convinced Gavin not to destroy the portal because he hopes that he’ll be able to go back in time to when he was a little boy and do right by him. And obviously, that’s problematic for everyone, including Gavin himself. If James gets away with it, it would not only erase Gavin’s family but everyone’s existence and eventually, Ty’s path toward becoming cancer free. The fact that Kira underscored this to Ty, however, makes me skeptical once again.

The problem with time travel is that if it falls into the wrong hands, it can do a lot of damage. 

If/once Gavin gets wind of this, I would assume he’d want nothing more than to help Levi stop his father. At least, that’s my hope. 

It does seem like everyone has their own agenda in 10K B.C., including Caroline, who has disappeared with the pages she found with Riley in the cave. It’s unclear if Caroline knows all about James’ plans, if she wants to help him realize them, or if she’s hellbent on stopping him regardless of what Gavin says. But it turns out that they don’t even need the pages Caroline found because the confrontation with the Exiles—thanks a lot, Virgil (I know, I know, he was just trying to save his wife)—unearthed Aaron’s journal, which completed the equation that James was seeking all along. 

Now, I have a lot of questions about this, and I never thought that a seemingly inconsequential character in the first episode was going to be so deeply connected to the mystery. Obviously, like Veronica and Ella, I want to know how Aaron got his hands on them or how he knew what he was trying to solve. It’s clear that he’s been in this timeline before or is somehow connected to it considering the pink flowers (the same ones from Gavin’s vision). Is he from the future? Did he have visions like Gavin? Ella and Veronica both recall Aaron specifically going to La Brea that day and almost wanting them to be there when the sinkhole opens up, which would mean their involvement isn’t random. Was he in cahoots with someone—possibly Kira?—to fall into the sinkhole so that they would have the equation/the key to getting home? How else would she know about the journal?

Maybe this is all just a huge science experiment? At this point, anything really is possible.

There are plenty of questions that we still need to address, but the plotline also allowed us to see Lucas step up to the plate as a leader (he’s a natural) and do what was best for his people, while Veronica got closure on her toxic relationship with Aaron, which allowed her to finally take the next step in her romance with Lucas—moving in into his car. I love that despite the situation and circumstances, healthy relationships are still able to flourish. From the darkness, something beautiful is born! 

Having everyone dealing with hardships at The Clearing has made for some incredible character growth, particularly when it comes to the aforementioned Lucas and Veronica, along with Scott. When we first him, he couldn’t get anything done without his weed pen, but now, he’s throwing insults at the Exiles as they hold a spear pointed at his heart. 

And not only that, but Scott actually killed Tamet in self-defense of his best friend Lucas. I know it’s going to take a toll on him, but the point is, Scott did that! He had it in him to defend himself and his loved ones when they were under attack, and that’s just beautiful.

It’s also revealed that Kira sent the Exiles, not James, which once again puts her whole character into question. Is she on the right side of history? Is she a sleeper agent planted here by the DOD? Can we trust her? Or does she want Aaron’s book because she has nefarious intentions of her own? As I mentioned before, when time travel is involved, no one can be trusted. 

  • I’m glad Virgil wasn’t a traitor for the sake of it. His wife’s life was at stake, so he did what he had to do. I can respect that, even if it did put everyone in the Clearing in danger. If he was just upfront with Lucas, it would’ve fared so much better than allowing the Exiles to ambush them.
  • Izzy’s morse code mirror idea is genuinely so smart. And Josh’s realization that the Girls Scouts are badass was so cute. 
  • Riley couldn’t keep Caroline’s secret from her dad, and it was not going to end well.
  • Gavin leads with his heart, so when he realized his family was in danger, he was willing to risk it all to go and help them. It’s a good thing Levi is back and is a little more practical. He knew Izzy had it handled, and their best chance of success was getting the Exiles while they were trying to grab the journal. 

What did you think about the episode? Do you feel the action starting to ramp up as we barrel toward the end of the season? 

And how do you think this will all pan out? Do you have any promising theories? Share them in the comments! 

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    La Brea Series Finale Review – How Did It All End?

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    La Brea Series Finale Review - How Did It All End?

    Everything that was once broken was made whole again on La Brea Season 3 Episode 6—the conclusion to a wild story that needed to be seen (and live through) to be believed. 

    Falling through a sinkhole and landing in 10K B.C. doesn’t sound like something that will turn your life around for the better, but everyone (well, mostly everyone) came out better because of it. 

    Despite many bleak moments, there was a thread of hope, with the series ending on a hopeful note, proving that no matter what life throws your way (an angry T-Rex, even), there’s always a way to overcome it and come out on the other side, stronger than ever. 

    We saw that strength through many character developments throughout the show’s three seasons—though we can all safely agree that it was Lucas and Scott who had the biggest transformation after being forced to navigate the complexities of the prehistoric ages.

    While I was rooting for everyone to make it, I was especially crossing my fingers for those two to have a happy ending; and when Lucas stayed behind to help Gavin and his family while Veronica went through the aurora to 2021, I was worried that he wasn’t going to make it.

    Thankfully, through sheer luck, determination, and wit (who would ever consider incorporating a T-Rex into their plan?), along with a group of allies from the Village, they were able to defeat Maya Schmidt and her squad of soldiers. At times, it felt a little too easy—these people had machine guns, after all, but they were somehow defeated by gut punches and spears—but then you have to remember all that they’ve already been through; they’ve earned this “easy escape.” It’s a shame that these auroras weren’t around and accessible earlier so that everyone could just walk right through back to their timeline and call it a day, but there’d still be the little issue of Maya Schmidt’s dangerous technology.

    After the aurora—their only hope of getting back to 2021—blew up, things once again seemed rather grim, until it dawned on Gavin that this is the moment he’s been waiting for! Not only was he a trained pilot who spearheaded the flight project, but he was in possession of the microchip (that I’m hoping they destroyed after) that could turn said jet into a time machine. Who needs an aurora when you have the holy grail?

    Once it was established that they all had a way home, the only obstacle left on their path was a dinosaur, who didn’t stand a chance against that torque. Though, I will say I’ll never have to wonder if a T-Rex would win in a fight against machine guns… but I was surprised they didn’t even injure him. 

    Throughout the episode, Gavin, Izzy and Helena jumped from 10K B.C. to 1965 (where they found Josh) back to the prehistoric era, without ever finding Eve. Helena claimed that she was in agreement that destroying the servers at the Pasadena research farm was necessary to end it all, but the only thing we had to go on was her word. Thankfully, her word was golden, and mere hours later back in their present timeline, the whole Harris family reunited under a tree that was significant to Gavin and Eve. Given what they’ve all just been through, I was expecting Eve to be a little more disheveled, but I guess everyone looking fresh and clean despite their adventures has always been the show’s running joke. 

    The Harris family wasn’t the only one that started broken but found their way back to each other, as 10K B.C. made it very clear to everyone that family is worth fighting for and they never knew what they had until it was gone. 

    Sam trekked to 1965 to find Riley, who was receiving treatment in a hospital, though not the right treatment as MRIs and procedures that she needed for a collapsed lung simply weren’t discovered or made common practice yet. The good news is that Sam was a doctor with the necessary skills to get her treated, before somehow (I wish we’d seen this) sneaking her out of the hospital and getting her through a portal to 2021 so she could get the necessary antibiotics. Riley pulled through—and like Eve, looked flawless after her brush with death—and reunited with Josh in 2021, as they professed their love to each other and called back on the first time they laid eyes on one another before they fell through the sinkhole. They’ve come a long way with a solid foundation that has survived several time periods. In the end, they always found a way back to each other.

    Riley and Sam also reunited with her brother and mother, with Sam making good on his promise to do right by his family with this second chance.

    Lucas also pulled through and made it back just in time to see an ultrasound of his “strong” baby with Veronica. There was so much joy in this moment since it was a moment that neither of them ever thought they’d live to see. Veronica finally opened up about her fears of having a baby in the prehistoric ages, and those fears were warranted as mere moments later, they were outrunning a T-Rex. But it’s one heck of a story to tell a child conceived in 10K B.C. 

    And Scott was right, what happens in 10K B.C. doesn’t stay there as they were all now connected and bonded by shared trauma and an experience of a lifetime that no one else would ever truly understand. Scott, however, wasn’t one of the lucky ones who met a significant other after falling through the sinkhole, though he used that time to work on himself and become the man that he knew Emily, the one that got away, always knew he could be. 

    Upon returning to 2021, he sought out his ex and promised that he was now a man worthy of her love—and his confidence earned him the girl. 

    The only thing I’m bummed about is that we didn’t get to see Scott, Veronica, and Lucas’ brunch date (though I’m hoping that’s a standing weekend appointment), nor did we get any closure on Petra. Scott mentioned that he was taking her to her grandparents since her mother was killed, but it would be nice to see if Scott checked in on her every now and then since they formed a sweet bond together. I hope this isn’t Petra’s villain origin story and she doesn’t follow in her mother’s footsteps trying to recreate the whole situation—though that would be a good excuse for a sequel! (I know, I know, it just ended!) 

    Ty said goodbye to his longtime friends (and I’m bummed that the triumphant trio of Ty, Gavin and Sam has been broken up), but he was never focused on getting back to 2021; he found purpose for himself in 10K B.C with the love of his life. I am surprised that none of these people decided to jump into 2021 given the chance; I can’t imagine living with the fear of getting attacked by dinosaurs is something you get used to. However, I do love that he stayed true to himself and prioritized his happiness. The risk was all worth it to him as he came down here a many without a future and stayed a man with a very promising one. 

    LA BREA — “The Road Home Part 2” Episode 306 — Pictured: (l-r) Rohan Mirchandaney as Scott, Chiké Okonkwo as Ty — (Photo by: NBC)

    The person I expected to jump to 2021 was Leila since she talked so much about getting out of her village and seeing what else is out there. I assumed that her love for Izzy would bring her back to the modern world, but that never happened, and we never got proper closure between them aside from Leila saving Izzy’s life. It was a sweet gesture and a moment that showed just how far both of them have come on their journeys of being warriors—though I wish their romance didn’t just fizzle out due to circumstances. 

    And finally, my biggest complaint is that it wasn’t exactly clear how much time had passed since they fell into the sinkhole once everyone was back in Los Angeles. Was it a few days? A few months? Would their homes just simply be waiting for them? How did they all just jump back into their everyday lives without as much as a hiccup? Considering Scott knew where to find Emily and she hadn’t moved on, I don’t think that much time passed, but it would’ve been nice to get a clear timeline. 

    Mostly everyone got their happy ending—and as far as final episodes go that stare down the hard task of wrapping up a very complex situation, it provided a fitting conclusion to a bonkers series that relied heavily on dedicated and patient audiences suspending disbelief.

    I think we can all say that we appreciate the developments of the modern world so much more after watching the series…and we definitely don’t need a time machine to the prehistoric ages anytime soon.

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    La Brea Season 3 Episode 5 Review – [SPOILER] Dies

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    There’s a lot to digest on La Brea’s penultimate episode (Season 3 Episode 5), but there’s never been more of an incentive to take down and destroy Maya Schmidt and everything that she’s built. 

    Everyone learned the hard way that Maya was a dangerous woman at the head of this whole operation running outside of Ladera Air Base, which is stationed throughout many moments in time, including 10K B.C. and 1965. 

    Her main objective is to equip fighter jets with the time-traveling device, though she’s missing one key ingredient to making it all happen—a fossilized plant that Scott wrote about in an essay—hence why she scouted him to get intel and likely why they are all in the prehistoric ages, to begin with. But what makes it super terrifying is the fact that she plans to sell her invention to the highest bidder, without taking into account all the damage that it might cause to the world and ignoring all the very real destruction already happening with the sinkholes.

    And thus, the mission isn’t about just saving Eve—though it’s a huge piece of the puzzle for Gavin as he’s determined to reunite his family and make good on the promises he broke to his sister Helena (which, quite honestly, that storyline just doesn’t track and I could’ve done without her inclusion in the storyline)—it’s about saving the world from an evil, ruthless villain. 

    At the end of the episode, they try to find the detention center where Eve’s being held, only to stumble upon an aurora instead. The red one, as we’ve learned, leads to 1965, so they all decide to walk through it and get the girl, find Josh and Riley (finally), and light things on fire.

    It’ll be interesting to see them all play in a more current timeline as we’ve pretty much gotten used to them operating in the prehistoric era, but it does beg the question—will they ever return to 1965? How will they save all their other friends from the Clearing?

    Of course, going between time periods isn’t as difficult as one assumed previously, thanks to the convenient auroras, but plenty of people have left behind those they love in 10K B.C., including Izzy, who was developing a real connection to Leila (before she found out that Leila was working for Maya as a spy in hopes of getting a shot at a new life in the present day. Hopefully, they’ll be able to bounce back from that), and Ty, who returned back to the past in hopes of finding Paraa, only to realize she never made it back home from her trip with James. Will he ever see her again?

    One of the most heartbreaking moments of the episode, though inevitable considering the dangers posed by this time period, was Levi’s death. However, it was a valiant one as he went out going above and beyond to save his friends, including Gavin, who he has been trying to find peace with ever since he destroyed the trust built between them by sleeping with Eve. 

    After Scott was taken into custody by the military, he realized Levi was a traitor, but then we found out he was actually just infiltrating because he wanted to find Eve and help everyone out of this mess (does this mean Levi knew the whole time that Gavin was communicating with Maya and didn’t say anything? It’s just not adding up.). Levi’s story, admittedly, got a little jumbled with his time jump and his desire to get revenge for his late wife and daughter, which I don’t think ever happened… unless they were killed by Maya’s Rye group. 

    Still, Levi was a constant from day one, so his loss was deeply felt, and when you say Izzy broke down, you couldn’t help but shed a tear alongside her. There are always casualties of war—and he took one for the team so that they could make some real progress. 

    As we move into the season finale, the hope is that everything falls into place in a way that provides a fitting conclusion to this wildly twisted, chaotic, and oftentimes, unorganized and hard-to-follow, adventure. I’ve enjoyed La Brea at face value, but I do think that they tried to do too much with too little time, and some storylines, like Gavin’s sisters’ inclusion, simply didn’t resonate the way they hoped.

    The finale needs to do a few things—like reunite the Harris family, along with Riley and her dad, and give closure to Ty and Paraa, one of the fandom’s favorite couples. It would also be nice to see James and Silas again considering they were such a key part of the storyline in the first few seasons. 

    Will Veronica and Lucas choose to go back to the present or will they hang back in 10K B.C. having found that they enjoy their life there more? Neither of them really has anything to go back to in the present, aside from luxuries like fast food, technology, and modern healthcare (comes in handy for a baby), and no dinosaurs, oversized crocs, or the like. 

    And finally, I hope La Brea doesn’t take a page from Manifest’s playbook and undo all the progress that they made. It worked for Manifest, but it would be detrimental to La Brea considering how much all of these characters have grown—for the better—during their escapades in 10K B.C. They’ve gained a new perspective and outlook on life that has forged a better path for them and their families, and even if they do make it back to the present, I hope that they keep those experiences with them and close to heart. 

    What did you think of the episode?

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    La Brea Review Season 3 Episode 4 – Fire Storm

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    If it’s not dinosaurs destroying the Clearing, it’s forest fire spreading quickly and threatening the home that they’ve built within Paraa/Ruth’s village. And on top of that, throw in a dash of betrayal from Maya Schmidt—because who didn’t see that coming, right? Well, apparently, Scott didn’t, which is kind of upsetting because I feel like he should’ve been weary from the moment Gavin and Sam were saved by her at the Ladera base. Coincidence? I think not.

    There were only two ways this could pan out—Maya would’ve legitimately helped Gavin and co. or she would’ve betrayed them, and the latter is far more enticing. 

    Maya just so happened to be around when Gavin and Sam got caught snooping around the airbase, and then immediately had the solution to Gavin restoring his memories. It’s almost as if she, oh, I don’t know, needed him to remember something. 

    Gavin blindly believed Maya because his need to save Eve superseded everything else, and the implications of that have major consequences. 

    Eve is just one piece of it, but Gavin—and thus Sam and even Ty—prioritized saving her over doing the right thing for humanity and the world.

    Back in 2021, Gavin was kidnapped by the woman from last week’s episode who was stalking them and wielding a gun. Eventually, we learned that her name was Helena and she was Gavin’s sister, who was on a mission to right the wrongs her family committed and preserve their legacy—but she needed Gavin’s help.

    I’m not even going to try to understand the time-traveling aspect that happened here, but it seems Gavin’s memory loss was pretty extensive since he forgot he had a whole sister before even arriving in 10K BC. 

    However, he trusted Helena enough to help her open a vault that contained the stolen hard drive that Maya Schmidt is on the hunt for in 10K B.C.

    Maya hoped that by allowing Gavin to tap into those memories and remember where the drive was, he’d go above and beyond to get it and she would be able to snatch it from him and complete her mission to turn fighter jets into a time-traveling machine that could give military an advantage in war. 

    Gavin successfully managed to send a message through the tarpits to Scott in 2021, who was now in the fold with Ty and Sam, though he didn’t exactly trust them. Through this scene, fans were able to get to know the person Scott was before falling through the sinkhole—the one who lost the woman of his dreams. He’s come so far despite all that’s been stacked against him.

    And then it was time for Gavin of 2021 to make a choice—give his sister the drive to go back to where the program originated (1965, which is presumably where Josh and Riley were transported to) and shut it all down, effectively saving the world, or go to 10K B.C. and risk it all to save Eve. 

    The wise and correct choice would be to help Helena, but considering personal motivations and emotions have a huge draw here—and Ty, the person who would’ve typically thought rationally desperately wanted to see Paraa again so he was agreeable—Gavin chose to hand the drive to his 10K B.C self and thus let it get in the vicinity of the wrong hands. 

    He didn’t even try to keep it a secret, holding the drive right in the purview of Maya, whose villain was showing. 

    Also, what did she do to our angel Scott? And why isn’t anyone more concerned that “they” aka the military people took Scott? No one even questioned that she wasn’t caught right alongside him. I wish Scott had taken his findings about Maya being a bad guy and told Gavin and Sam before confronting her.

    Scott was the only one who connected that Maya was the woman from Gavin’s vision, but hopefully, before Gavin just hands over the only thing that can ensure their exit from 10K B.C., he’ll think about the consequences of it getting in the wrong hands.

    There’s been no word of Riley or Josh (though knowing the time period they are in definitely helped), nor is there any insight into what’s going on with Levi, though he’s likely chilling somewhere with Eve at the airbase. 

    Veronica and Lucas seemingly abandoned any hope of returning to the present day, focusing on adjusting to their new life in 10K B.C. instead. Veronica feels a sense of pride and purpose by joining the ranks of the council (and this time, she had Lucas’ support), and while her decision to walk into the fire was careless considering she’s pregnant, she was also key to breaking open the dam and helping them fight the fire. She proved her worth already, I just hope she exerts a little more caution and puts her family first. 

    Also, you’d think with these auroras being so prevalent, more people would be seeking them out to find their way back to the present day!

    As for Lucas and Sam, they adopted a lost little wolf—which almost cost them their lives when they ran into the burning woods after it—but it’s nice that they have an emotional support animal that they can all lean on when times get tough. This is likely how domesticated dogs came to be, and it tracks with the group’s “save everyone in need” mentality.

    Now, if Gavin could just start prioritizing everyone over his wife, it would be nice.

    What did you think of the episode? We only have 2 left until the series finale—do you think all of our burning questions will get answered in time?

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